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		<title>Comment on Sheep in the Ruins by Randy Gabrielse</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2012/02/08/sheep-in-the-ruins/#comment-2149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Gabrielse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, et. al.

Thank you for sharing your visit to Detroit, and thank you for your probing eyes and  mind that investigated more than just the urban decay.

I was born in Detroit because my parents sought to do some community development work following the riots.  I have seen a number of photo exhibits of the type you mention.  I value the eyes through which you share because to some, such pictures have become known here on the West Side of Michigan as &quot;Decay Pornography.&quot;  I am a historian and I am deeply pained when I see some of the photographs, particularly Central Station, which a state planner has told me can never be restored due to Asbestos.  But as a friend reminded me, &quot;these are just human creations.&quot;

OTOH:  I have been rejoicing these last few years to hear little stories of little restorations (resurrections?) among those who remain in the City.  I think your post has been just the kick that I need in order to actually visit Detroit and see some of what you have seen so that I may rejoice in hope, even as I mourn the losses.

Peace,
Randy Gabrielse]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, et. al.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your visit to Detroit, and thank you for your probing eyes and  mind that investigated more than just the urban decay.</p>
<p>I was born in Detroit because my parents sought to do some community development work following the riots.  I have seen a number of photo exhibits of the type you mention.  I value the eyes through which you share because to some, such pictures have become known here on the West Side of Michigan as &#8220;Decay Pornography.&#8221;  I am a historian and I am deeply pained when I see some of the photographs, particularly Central Station, which a state planner has told me can never be restored due to Asbestos.  But as a friend reminded me, &#8220;these are just human creations.&#8221;</p>
<p>OTOH:  I have been rejoicing these last few years to hear little stories of little restorations (resurrections?) among those who remain in the City.  I think your post has been just the kick that I need in order to actually visit Detroit and see some of what you have seen so that I may rejoice in hope, even as I mourn the losses.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Randy Gabrielse</p>
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		<title>Comment on Urban Filling and Urban Judgment by Kirstin VG-R</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2012/01/12/urban-filling-and-urban-judgment/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirstin VG-R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FINALLY got a chance to read this wonderful piece after the busyness of January  (a month of chaos ruled by the idol of the 3-credit course? ;).  Thank you for continuing to write so poetically and prophetically, Brian.  A voice crying in the wilderness--and we don&#039;t just hear you, we lift our voices with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY got a chance to read this wonderful piece after the busyness of January  (a month of chaos ruled by the idol of the 3-credit course? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Thank you for continuing to write so poetically and prophetically, Brian.  A voice crying in the wilderness&#8211;and we don&#8217;t just hear you, we lift our voices with you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Hope of Resurrection by Working and Resurrection &#124; Dev Presbyterian Record</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2010/10/13/no-hope-of-resurrection/#comment-2103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Working and Resurrection &#124; Dev Presbyterian Record]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Stephens-Rennie posted this brief but provocative thought on Empire Remixed this week, and I wanted to share the idea here. Is he onto something?  Are we mainlining Presbys [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stephens-Rennie posted this brief but provocative thought on Empire Remixed this week, and I wanted to share the idea here. Is he onto something?  Are we mainlining Presbys [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advent 2011 :: Day 22 by Brian Walsh</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2011/12/22/advent-2011-day-22/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Randy, you are most welcome. Glad to know that you are out there and that you find the kind of stuff that emerges out of our community is sustaining and encouraging for folks like you.
Shalom,
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Randy, you are most welcome. Glad to know that you are out there and that you find the kind of stuff that emerges out of our community is sustaining and encouraging for folks like you.<br />
Shalom,<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advent 2011 :: Day 22 by drgabrielse</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2011/12/22/advent-2011-day-22/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drgabrielse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you to everyone in the UofT community who has contributed to this wonderful Advent series.  It has been a real blessing to me.
Peace,
Randy Gabrielse]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to everyone in the UofT community who has contributed to this wonderful Advent series.  It has been a real blessing to me.<br />
Peace,<br />
Randy Gabrielse</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advent IV :: Mary&#8217;s Magnificat by Happy Christmas from Innovista Ireland &#171; Innovista Ireland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Happy Christmas from Innovista Ireland &#171; Innovista Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] out Brian Walsh&#8217;s rewrite of Mary&#8217;s song here or the Transforming Centre&#8217;s inspiring advent blog [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out Brian Walsh&#8217;s rewrite of Mary&#8217;s song here or the Transforming Centre&#8217;s inspiring advent blog [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem of Incarnation by Just a guy</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2011/10/27/the-problem-of-incarnation/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just a guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed your article as whole. And I&#039;ve come to truly enjoy and respect several of the Occupiers with whom I&#039;ve spent time. I do my best to love them all :-]

You wrote:

&quot;
“What are these people doing,” some taunt, “don’t they have a job?“

“Couldn’t they find something better to do, like volunteering at a soup kitchen or picking up trash on the street?”

Betrayed in *these kinds of sentiment*, of course, is the notion that for people to be of any value, they have to be economically productive citizens. They need to contribute to the economy, to the bottom line, to what makes our society tick.&quot;

No, that just isn&#039;t true. Yes, some of the people, the first kind you mention, might fall into that category. Of assuming that only those economically productive have worth.

But that second idea is precisely not about being economically productive. I can&#039;t blame someone for looking at the vast energy consumed at these encampments, and wondering &quot;What if they did something, right now, to directly aid the homeless, the hungry and the indigent? Or what if they were focusing on preaching the message of Christ during their many peoples mic sessions?&quot;

Instead, we have large swathes of children angry at their student loans, smaller contingents of people talking about killing the rich, large numbers of employed people asking for higher taxes, or a living wage, or whatever. The many who say they aren&#039;t for violence &quot;yet.&quot; Those complaining about all the homeless folks who keep coming -- night after night -- for a meal.

Yes, there are many, many decent folks there.

But please don&#039;t forget that these people are as flawed as any others. Their motives range from terribly selfish, to mostly selfless. They are certainly not beyond critique, and it&#039;s ridiculous to assume that every critique is motivated by a love of the World or a love of money.

I smell an idol, and that idol is utopian socialism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your article as whole. And I&#8217;ve come to truly enjoy and respect several of the Occupiers with whom I&#8217;ve spent time. I do my best to love them all :-]</p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
“What are these people doing,” some taunt, “don’t they have a job?“</p>
<p>“Couldn’t they find something better to do, like volunteering at a soup kitchen or picking up trash on the street?”</p>
<p>Betrayed in *these kinds of sentiment*, of course, is the notion that for people to be of any value, they have to be economically productive citizens. They need to contribute to the economy, to the bottom line, to what makes our society tick.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that just isn&#8217;t true. Yes, some of the people, the first kind you mention, might fall into that category. Of assuming that only those economically productive have worth.</p>
<p>But that second idea is precisely not about being economically productive. I can&#8217;t blame someone for looking at the vast energy consumed at these encampments, and wondering &#8220;What if they did something, right now, to directly aid the homeless, the hungry and the indigent? Or what if they were focusing on preaching the message of Christ during their many peoples mic sessions?&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead, we have large swathes of children angry at their student loans, smaller contingents of people talking about killing the rich, large numbers of employed people asking for higher taxes, or a living wage, or whatever. The many who say they aren&#8217;t for violence &#8220;yet.&#8221; Those complaining about all the homeless folks who keep coming &#8212; night after night &#8212; for a meal.</p>
<p>Yes, there are many, many decent folks there.</p>
<p>But please don&#8217;t forget that these people are as flawed as any others. Their motives range from terribly selfish, to mostly selfless. They are certainly not beyond critique, and it&#8217;s ridiculous to assume that every critique is motivated by a love of the World or a love of money.</p>
<p>I smell an idol, and that idol is utopian socialism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advent 2011 :: Day 10 by slacktivist &#187; Church bulletin announcements</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slacktivist &#187; Church bulletin announcements]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the Empire Remixed blog are asking us to imagine. You may say they&#8217;re just dreamers, but they&#8217;re not the only ones.And finally, a little while back I joked that Louis Menand&#8217;s discussion of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Empire Remixed blog are asking us to imagine. You may say they&#8217;re just dreamers, but they&#8217;re not the only ones.And finally, a little while back I joked that Louis Menand&#8217;s discussion of [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Advent 2011 :: Day 7 by Deborah</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2011/12/07/advent-2011-day-7/#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dion.  I&#039;m enjoying your meditations on Advent.  I didn&#039;t know about the assisted living residence for these men.  I&#039;m grateful it&#039;s there.  I&#039;m appalled that it&#039;s threatened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dion.  I&#8217;m enjoying your meditations on Advent.  I didn&#8217;t know about the assisted living residence for these men.  I&#8217;m grateful it&#8217;s there.  I&#8217;m appalled that it&#8217;s threatened.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Duct Tape, Swords and Ploughshares by Deborah</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2011/12/05/on-duct-tape-swords-and-ploughshares/#comment-1934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Such beautiful thoughts for Advent.  Advent can so easily become anodyne, because really, how are we suffering?  Hmmm.  How are we not suffering in this wicked world?  How can we not feel the cloud of pain that surrounds us, even if we think we&#039;re okay.  And are we okay?  Have we closed our eyes?  Do we think we are first, and destined to stay that way?  Or if not that, do we think we can ourselves reverse our last place status?  Advent is our wake up alarm.  All is not well.  But we awake, not to take arms against a sea of troubles, but to surrender to the One.  Lord Jesus, come soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such beautiful thoughts for Advent.  Advent can so easily become anodyne, because really, how are we suffering?  Hmmm.  How are we not suffering in this wicked world?  How can we not feel the cloud of pain that surrounds us, even if we think we&#8217;re okay.  And are we okay?  Have we closed our eyes?  Do we think we are first, and destined to stay that way?  Or if not that, do we think we can ourselves reverse our last place status?  Advent is our wake up alarm.  All is not well.  But we awake, not to take arms against a sea of troubles, but to surrender to the One.  Lord Jesus, come soon.</p>
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