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	<title>Comments on: Sundance, Obama and “Taking Chance”</title>
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		<title>By: dilys</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2009/01/21/sundance-obama-and-%e2%80%9ctaking-chance%e2%80%9d/#comment-588</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So instead of echoing the call of the Old Testament prophets, who said that with greater faithfulness (i.e., more justice, mercy, and walking with God) would come greater blessings and more peace, he states that greater prosperity would result in less peace, regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living.&quot;

i&#039;d like to add that the old testament also challenges the notion that one&#039;s obedience to God results in prosperity (see books of job and eccelsiastes). in fact, we see the struggle of the writers to make sense of the fact that shitty things happen to the righteous while the wicked continue in long life and wealth. if that&#039;s the case, it should at least cause us to question whether our wealth (mine, yours, the guy down the street) is a result of following God, or --?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So instead of echoing the call of the Old Testament prophets, who said that with greater faithfulness (i.e., more justice, mercy, and walking with God) would come greater blessings and more peace, he states that greater prosperity would result in less peace, regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living.&#8221;</p>
<p>i&#8217;d like to add that the old testament also challenges the notion that one&#8217;s obedience to God results in prosperity (see books of job and eccelsiastes). in fact, we see the struggle of the writers to make sense of the fact that shitty things happen to the righteous while the wicked continue in long life and wealth. if that&#8217;s the case, it should at least cause us to question whether our wealth (mine, yours, the guy down the street) is a result of following God, or &#8211;?</p>
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		<title>By: chesterjosiah</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete, you&#039;re putting words in Walsh&#039;s mouth.  At no point does Walsh say anything along the lines of &quot;regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living.&quot;

I think Walsh is saying, &quot;&lt;em&gt;If America continues to do the things that historically brought it short-term prosperity, &lt;/em&gt; then prosperity cannot come about alongside a more peaceful planet.&quot;  That is, they are mutually exclusive.

I could be wrong as well, but I (unlike you) admit that I am at best guessing what Walsh means.

I agree with Walsh, but I (like you), believe that it is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; evil to be rich.  The problem lies in what one does with his or her riches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, you&#8217;re putting words in Walsh&#8217;s mouth.  At no point does Walsh say anything along the lines of &#8220;regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Walsh is saying, &#8220;<em>If America continues to do the things that historically brought it short-term prosperity, </em> then prosperity cannot come about alongside a more peaceful planet.&#8221;  That is, they are mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>I could be wrong as well, but I (unlike you) admit that I am at best guessing what Walsh means.</p>
<p>I agree with Walsh, but I (like you), believe that it is <b>not</b> evil to be rich.  The problem lies in what one does with his or her riches.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish that was what he said. But let me quote: 

&quot;I’m sorry, but greater prosperity for this one nation or its rich neighbours to the North will not and cannot result in a more peaceful planet. That is something that not even God can pull off. More importantly, God isn’t interested in pulling off that kind of prosperity for America.&quot;

So instead of echoing the call of the Old Testament prophets, who said that with greater faithfulness (i.e., more justice, mercy, and walking with God) would come greater blessings and more peace, he states that greater prosperity would result in less peace, &lt;i&gt;regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that was what he said. But let me quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sorry, but greater prosperity for this one nation or its rich neighbours to the North will not and cannot result in a more peaceful planet. That is something that not even God can pull off. More importantly, God isn’t interested in pulling off that kind of prosperity for America.&#8221;</p>
<p>So instead of echoing the call of the Old Testament prophets, who said that with greater faithfulness (i.e., more justice, mercy, and walking with God) would come greater blessings and more peace, he states that greater prosperity would result in less peace, <i>regardless of whether the prosperity comes as the result of right living</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: J Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Archer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Walsh assumes is not that it is evil to be rich, but that the history behind America&#039;s wealth is riddled with structural evil, exploitation, and many ideological cover-ups.  Indeed it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Walsh assumes is not that it is evil to be rich, but that the history behind America&#8217;s wealth is riddled with structural evil, exploitation, and many ideological cover-ups.  Indeed it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Scholtens</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2009/01/21/sundance-obama-and-%e2%80%9ctaking-chance%e2%80%9d/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete Scholtens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but it appears that you assume that it is evil to be rich. Is it not possible that if and when God blesses a person/nation with riches, that through that they can be a blessing to others around them?

If true, then the problem is not the riches/blessings, but what we choose to do with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but it appears that you assume that it is evil to be rich. Is it not possible that if and when God blesses a person/nation with riches, that through that they can be a blessing to others around them?</p>
<p>If true, then the problem is not the riches/blessings, but what we choose to do with them.</p>
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		<title>By: chesterjosiah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chesterjosiah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  I could not agree more.  Beautifully written, Mr Walsh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I could not agree more.  Beautifully written, Mr Walsh.</p>
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