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	<title>Comments on: Memory and Rebuilding in the Ruins of America</title>
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		<title>By: Hurt, Love and Empire &#171; Empire Remixed</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2008/03/19/memory-and-rebuilding-in-the-ruins-of-america/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hurt, Love and Empire &#171; Empire Remixed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] was neither the first nor the last time that I have met such a reaction to saying such things. My comments at Messiah College published on this blog a couple months ago occasioned similar reactions on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was neither the first nor the last time that I have met such a reaction to saying such things. My comments at Messiah College published on this blog a couple months ago occasioned similar reactions on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2008/03/19/memory-and-rebuilding-in-the-ruins-of-america/#comment-114</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt - Thanks for your response. I think you&#039;re right that action through political and governmental means is not the only way of seeking justice. Radical non-violence is certainly one way to go, but I do not think that this should necessarily exclude our participation in political processes. 

Our engagement with the surrounding culture should certainly take strong cues from the early church, but our relationship to government is different now than it was in 1st Century Roman Palestine. We have a variety of avenues to influence our governments. 

We can protest. We can demonstrate. We can hold rallies and we can speak out against injustices. We can also, as Christians work to bring Shalom to our broken and breached city streets, in a Jeremiah 29 kind of way. I suggest that the thrust of Brian&#039;s post was not necessarily to plug action through either political or governmental avenues, but might leave room for such engagement. 

There are opportunities for some to work in and through government and politics to realise some Kingdom goals. There is probably room for Josephs and Daniels in our current political arena as much as there is room for non-violent resistance outside of that system. 

And you&#039;re right, nothing we do in war is consistent with the redemptive character of the gospel. But how might we live out that ethic of love, or speak with a pacifist Christian voice that is a prophetic call both to the state, and to our own churches who have capitulated to Nationalist ideologies?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8211; Thanks for your response. I think you&#8217;re right that action through political and governmental means is not the only way of seeking justice. Radical non-violence is certainly one way to go, but I do not think that this should necessarily exclude our participation in political processes. </p>
<p>Our engagement with the surrounding culture should certainly take strong cues from the early church, but our relationship to government is different now than it was in 1st Century Roman Palestine. We have a variety of avenues to influence our governments. </p>
<p>We can protest. We can demonstrate. We can hold rallies and we can speak out against injustices. We can also, as Christians work to bring Shalom to our broken and breached city streets, in a Jeremiah 29 kind of way. I suggest that the thrust of Brian&#8217;s post was not necessarily to plug action through either political or governmental avenues, but might leave room for such engagement. </p>
<p>There are opportunities for some to work in and through government and politics to realise some Kingdom goals. There is probably room for Josephs and Daniels in our current political arena as much as there is room for non-violent resistance outside of that system. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right, nothing we do in war is consistent with the redemptive character of the gospel. But how might we live out that ethic of love, or speak with a pacifist Christian voice that is a prophetic call both to the state, and to our own churches who have capitulated to Nationalist ideologies?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dowling</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2008/03/19/memory-and-rebuilding-in-the-ruins-of-america/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Dowling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not convinced that as Christ&#039;s disciples in America we are called to be &#039;repairers of the breach and restorers of the streets&#039; because this idea seems to me to suggest that we are to take action through political and governmental avenues in the course of calling America to repentance. If America is Rome, can we look to the first few centuries of Christian belief and find a precedent for how we are to act? I believe so. My first instinct is that we need a conversation started which calls Christ&#039;s disciples to a renewed commitment to non-violence.  In the immediate aftermath of 9/11--the pacifist Christian voice was barely heard. In my mind, justice must begin with a renewed commitment to Jesus&#039; Sermon on the Mount and the gospel ethic of love. Nothing we do (or support indirectly) in war is consistent with Jesus&#039; teachings in Matthew 5 or with the redemptive character of the gospel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that as Christ&#8217;s disciples in America we are called to be &#8216;repairers of the breach and restorers of the streets&#8217; because this idea seems to me to suggest that we are to take action through political and governmental avenues in the course of calling America to repentance. If America is Rome, can we look to the first few centuries of Christian belief and find a precedent for how we are to act? I believe so. My first instinct is that we need a conversation started which calls Christ&#8217;s disciples to a renewed commitment to non-violence.  In the immediate aftermath of 9/11&#8211;the pacifist Christian voice was barely heard. In my mind, justice must begin with a renewed commitment to Jesus&#8217; Sermon on the Mount and the gospel ethic of love. Nothing we do (or support indirectly) in war is consistent with Jesus&#8217; teachings in Matthew 5 or with the redemptive character of the gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: M.joshua</title>
		<link>http://empireremixed.com/2008/03/19/memory-and-rebuilding-in-the-ruins-of-america/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deeply compelling to say the least...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deeply compelling to say the least&#8230;</p>
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